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Cave art and the first symbols

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In 2024 a scene of a wild pig and human-like figures on the Indonesian island of Sulawesi was dated to about 51,200 years ago and published as the oldest narrative painting. It was proposed that some cave markings in Spain are older than 64,000 years and could therefore be Neanderthal work; this claim is debated.

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Dating uses uranium-series measurement of calcite crusts over the paintings, which gives a minimum age. Laser- ablation U-series was applied in Sulawesi. The dating of the Spanish examples (La Pasiega, Maltravieso, Ardales) was criticised on the grounds that open-system behaviour of the calcite (uranium leaching) may have inflated the ages.

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Archaeology (Sulawesi, Indonesia)At least about 51,200 years ago (narrative scene)[1]
Archaeology (Spain; Neanderthal claim)At least 64,000 years ago; the claim is disputed.[2][3]

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Measurement

Calcite over red markings in three Spanish caves was dated by uranium–thorium to more than 64,000 years, before modern humans were present in the region.[2]

Challenging

Methodological critique

Critics argued that the relationship of the sampled crusts to the paint is unclear and that the U–Th ages may be too old for methodological reasons.[3]

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Sources

  1. ArticleOktaviana, A. A. et al. (2024). Narrative cave art in Indonesia by 51,200 years ago. Nature 631, 814–818DOI 10.1038/s41586-024-07541-7archive
  2. ArticleHoffmann, D. L. et al. (2018). U-Th dating of carbonate crusts reveals Neandertal origin of Iberian cave art. Science 359, 912–915DOI 10.1126/science.aap7778archive
  3. ArticleWhite, R. et al. (2020). Still no archaeological evidence that Neanderthals created Iberian cave art. Journal of Human Evolution 144, 102640DOI 10.1016/j.jhevol.2019.102640archive

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Athena contributors. (2026). Cave art and the first symbols. Athena: The tree of human knowledge. Retrieved November 1, 2026, from https://latifkedi.github.io/athena/en/d/magara-sanati/

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@misc{athena_magara_sanati,
  title        = {Cave art and the first symbols},
  author       = {{Athena contributors}},
  year         = {2026},
  howpublished = {\url{https://latifkedi.github.io/athena/en/d/magara-sanati/}},
  note         = {Athena: The tree of human knowledge. Accessed: 2026-11-01}
}

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